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Skype Helps Hackers

Posted by admin on May 20th, 2012

With over 600 million users you would think Skype would have systems in place to combat hackers as fast as possible after being found out. Instead I have found that Skype has a loophole allowing hackers 24 hours use of an account and the user cannot stop them. This is something that I am sure many hackers are finding quite amusing and using to their advantage. Customer support are powerless to do anything about it because it is the Skype policy and security measures that allows this. Yes you read that correctly, it is Skypes security measures to protect your account that allows hackers to use your account for 24 hours untouched!

I have used Skype for a couple of years now and have seen many other peoples accounts get hacked. It is usually easy to tell as the person will get in contact with you saying they need help, then ask for funds to be sent to them in paypal, payza (previously alertpay), Liberty Reserve or Western Union. Sometimes they say they will send one payment processor funds in return for another, of course they ask for you to send first. Because they are using the messaging element of Skype you cannot see that it is not the person you think it is. Other hackers use credits that are associated with the Skype account.

Today my Skype account was hacked for the first time. I realized it almost straight away as I was using it at the time and it suddenly logged off. I tried to log back in but it would not accept my password. After several attempts I tried the forgotten password link. It asked for my email which I put in and it said that there was no record of that email in the Skype system. Strange, I checked my email to make sure I had the correct one and noticed that there was an email from Skype informing me that my email was successfully changed to one that I did not recognize. I now knew I had been hacked. I immediately changed my password to the email account.

This is where I thought great I am on top of this I will just contact support and they will fix it straight away for me. Little did I know how wrong I was. The first hurdle was finding where to contacy support directly. The support page yielded varying results and I eventually found a link provided by someone else to live chat support.

It took about 10 minutes to be connected to an agent, I was 2nd on the list. After asking for my Skype name and email, which I had already put in the box prior to being connected, the agent asked my real name then asked what the problem was. I told the agent that my account was hacked, they had changed the email and my password would not work. The agent then said they would pass me on to someone that would help me. Ok, I thought that was why I was talking to them but I will give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they were just the person to pass me onto the correct department.

The next customer support Margaret D came on and proceeded to ask me the same questions. Then said she would review the conversation so far. There was only about 12 lines of chat with the previous support agent but it still took over 5 minutes before I mentioned it was taking a long time to read. She then went through several processes that got nowhere and after 32 minutes came up with the line, ‘So you changed your email’. A comment I couldn’t believe as from the very start I had told her that someone else did it.

By this stage frustration was setting in and I started another chat with another support member. This one seemed to have a better handle on things. Then Margaret D came back and told me she had changed my email back to the one I wanted. Finally I’m getting somewhere, or so I thought. I was then given a link to reset my password, that is when the problems showed. I tried to reset my password but I got a message saying that I could not reset it because I had already reached the limit of password resets for the day. Essentially because the hacker reset the password I was not able to reset it back to one of my own.

During this time I had already heard from friends on facebook that the hacker was asking people to help by sending them money. I also had found an email in my account showing that the hacker had changed the password about half an hour prior to changing the email address. Strangely it was in arabic.

Translation

Token password
Reset your password using this temporary symbol. Please note that this link remains active for 6 hours only since it is received. After the end of this time period, the symbolwill not work and you will need to send a request to change the password.

On informing the support of the message they said that I would have to wait for 24 hours before trying to reset the password again. I wasn’t happy with that response and asked that they do something about it. I was told that nothing could be done until 24 hours later when I could reset the password. Since the email had been changed I thought that was the end of the issue after 55 minutes with customer support. That was until I was told half an hour later that the hacker was still soliciting money from people from my Skype account. This would be because they do not need my email, they only need the Skype name and password to login.

Back to square one and back into Skype customer support. I immediately requested that I be put onto someone that would be the best person there to solve my problem. Maria Rona N was confident saying,

I’m going to use all my available resources to help you out with your Skype concern.

It seems those resources do not count for much as once again the same sticking point remained. Despite another hour trying to resolve the issue and requesting to have higher level support do something, in the end I still had to wait 24 hours before trying to reset my password again, meanwhile the hacker goes about his business. Apparently level two support were too busy to look into the problem but I was told they would send an email as they do not deal in chat. Seems like no support at all from level two. I received an email from Maria which read;

Summary of the problem: Non-Paying Customers’ account is taken over. Unable to reset password because of the 24 hour restriction. Customer demands for higher level position to solve this issue.

Actions expected: Email customer for the best resolution regarding his issue.

So here I am 14 hours later and I have not received an email for the best resolution. I would not be surprised if I receive one later, more than 24 hours after the complaint, stating I should wait for 24 hours then try to reset the password.

But what happens if the hacker changes the email address again or they reset the password again before I do, then I will have to go through the process again. Skype will not record details of hackers email addresses hiding behind privacy laws. So this same person can hack other peoples account and change it to the same email. In fact according to Google this email has been used before.

So congratulations Skype, you have successfully implemented policies and systems that give hackers at least 24 hours of uninterrupted use of another persons account. Plenty of time for them to get in touch with the majority of that persons contacts to scam them, use any credit they have and generally do as much harm as they can.

It seems this is not an uncommon problem. Google ‘skype hacked’ and you will find lots of stories of people having calls made on their accounts, passwords changed and emails changed. Many of the stories say that when Skype were contacted they blamed the user for lack of security, often not offering a refund for the fraudulent charges on the account.

Most companies would try to make it as hard as possible for criminals to break the law. Instead Skype seems to have made friends with them by making things easy for them and harder for their customers. Strange way to do business and I think a company so big can and should introduce better measures.

Have you had your Skype hacked? Tell your story in the comments.

An actual account by

David Newman

Tagvillage Release Millionaire Club Details

Posted by admin on May 19th, 2012

Tagvillage have set the bar high and are delivering an opportunity for members to share in what will be the first rapid growth stage since they first launched. I have never seen a promotion like this. Sure other businesses have had co-ops and rotators but none have given guarantees. Tagvillage are so confident in the future they are giving guarantees that for every position and bonus position owned an advertiser or publisher will be given. That would be in addition to any normal referrals ie tag traders (or older inactive referrals). Considering the advertisers and publishers are the ones that will be spending the most money on the site, they are very highly valued referrals and could make members a large amount of commissions.

Every member that does not have a sponsor (house referrals) will be distributed to members taking part. Admitably a lot of those will not be active and hence not worth anything, but it is the advertisers and publishers that will be joining the site that make the difference. Because tagvillage have set a guarantee we can work out exactly what it will cost as a maximum if members get the minimum guaranteed amount. Of course that price becomes even better if they get more.

Breaking down the three packages available to work out the maximum cost per advertiser/publisher you would get;

Basic: 1 position, gives a guaranteed 1 advertiser or publisher costing $50 each

Power: 2 positions + 2 bonus, gives a guaranteed 4 advertiser or publisher costing $22.50 each

Mogul: 3 positions + 5 bonus, gives a guaranteed 8 advertiser or publisher costing $15 each

So to make their money back they would need an advertiser to spend just $300 on advertising, or a publisher to earn $300 through the widgets. That is a small amount especially considering that some advertisers will spend that or more in a day. Also once they have these as referrals they will earn commissions from them forever more as long as they use the site. That isn’t even including any tag trading they would do. One tag sale could give a higher commission then the cost of the referral.

Remember members could get multiple referrals of all types for their positions during the 90 days. Imagine they could get 1, 3, 5, even 10 referrals before they even get their bonus ones. This is a great deal and one that may never be repeated. Those that take advantage may find themselves benefiting from massive growth and could look back at this moment as being the defining one for their success.

To take advantage of the Millionaire Club you must be a Tagvillage member first. You have until the end of June to get your positions unless they run out first so don’t risk missing out.

Join Tagvillage by clicking the red button. Full Millionaire Club details are underneath it.

The Millionaires Club

NOW ACCEPTING MEMBERSHIP APPLICATIONS!

The tagvillage Millionaires Club is an exclusive referrals pool. Members get advertiser and publisher referrals along with standard Tag Trader referrals! Each position on the List is rewarded with referrals. The more positions a member has, the more referrals they will receive!

YOU MAY PURCHASE AS MANY POSITIONS AS YOU WISH SO LONG AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE!

There are a limited number of positions available, so HURRY and get yours before they are gone. (see complete details below)

Base Member:	Power Member:	Mogul Member:
$50.00 USD 1 Position in List	$90.00 USD 2 Positions in List + 2 Bonus Referrals*	$120.00 USD 3 Positions in List + 5 Bonus Referrals*

CHECK OUT THESE EARLY BIRD BONUSES!

POSITION	EARLY BIRD BONUS
1-25	5 Bonus Referrals per position*
26-100	2 Bonus Referrals per position*
101-300	1 Bonus Referral per position*

This will be a one-time bonus for the very first names to be in these positions.
* All bonus referrals are guaranteed to either be an advertiser or publisher member!

The Millionaires Club Details

1. Limited Positions Available
There are a limited number of positions available on the List. We will stop accepting membership positions if the maximum number of available positions is reached.

2. Limited Time for Membership
Registration for membership in the club will expire on June 30, 2012 at Midnight CDT (USA). We will not accept any more registrations after this time, even if the maximum number of available positions has not been reached.

3. Who is Eligible?
Membership is open to any person that becomes a member of tagvillage BEFORE June 30, 2012.

4. No Limit to Purchases
You may purchase as many positions on the list as you wish as long as their are positions available. To purchase additional positions, simply return to this page and choose your option.

5. 90 Day Distribution Period
We will begin distributing referrals on July 1, 2012 and will continue for 90 days (until September 30, 2012).

6. All House Referrals Distributed
We will distribute ALL house referrals to the names on the List. This will include Tag Trader referrals, Advertiser referrals, and Publisher referrals. Every single house referral that has registered with tagvillage from the very beginning of the website until September 30, 2012 will be distributed.

7. Method of Distribution
Beginning July 1, 2012 we will distribute house referrals evenly to the names on the List through a rotation cycle. The first name on the list will receive a referral and then will be moved to the end of the list. The name that was second will then become first. Each time a name receives a referral, it will be moved to the end of the list and will cycle back to the top as referrals are distributed. We will continuously rotate the names on the list as new advertisers, publishers, and Tag Traders register as house accounts.

8.Advertiser or Publisher Referral Guarantee
We guarantee every single name on the list (position) will receive a minimum of 1 advertiser or publisher as a referral. In the event that a member does NOT receive an advertiser or publisher referral during the 90 Day Distribution Period, we manually award one to them to fulfill this guarantee.

9. Bonus Referral Guarantee
We guarantee all bonus referrals will be either an advertiser or publisher.

10. Bonus Referral Distribution
All bonus referrals will be distributed AFTER the end of the 90 Day Distribution Period. Bonus referrals will be in addition to the referrals you receive during the standard distribution time.

11. No Time Limit to Fulfill Guarantees or Bonus Referrals
We ARE NOT obligated to fulfill all advertiser and/or publisher referral guarantees by September 30, 2012. Although we anticipate more than enough advertiser and publisher accounts to fulfill every obligation, we reserve the right to take as long as necessary to ensure every member of the Millionaires Club receives the number of advertiser and/or publisher referrals they were guaranteed. This includes bonus referrals.

Tagvillage is about to Explode

Posted by admin on May 12th, 2012

It has taken longer than expected but finally Tagvillage is about to release major changes to the site and mass market directly to publishers and advertisers. Read the latest news replicated below for your convenience. This is a real exciting time for the company and it’s members. If you are quick you may be able to take advantage of the Millionaire Club which opens in a couple of days. you will have to be quick though because it is limited. Read more about it below.

Announcing The Millionaires Club

May 11, 2012

The past few weeks we find ourselves discussing a common topic around corporate headquarters. We seem to continuosly talk about the impact advertisers and publishers will have on Tag Trading. We are just days away from huge changes that will forever change the construction of the tagvillage membership. We will soon see an influx of professionals and businesses as members. Due to these changes, we think our members are going to view referrals in a completely new way.

Not too long from now, we will open up unique channels for advertisers and publishers to join tagvillage. Advertisers will register with our site and create unique advertiser profiles. They will have their own unique account management tools that are custom designed for advertisers. Publishers will register with our site and create unique publisher profiles. They will also have their own unique account management tools that are custom designed for publishers. Both advertisers and publishers will begin creating lists of targeted Tags.

As we are putting the finishing touches on the platforms for advertisers and publishers, we are beginning to see how these new members will impact Tag Trading. Think about the following situation. Imagine there are 3 or 4 publishers who join tagvillage and they all publish sites related to cooking. Now, imagine that 3 or 4 advertisers join tagvillage who have goods or services also related to cooking. All of these publishers and advertisers will be targeting the same types of Tags.

As these 4 publishers and 4 advertisers begin targeting cooking Tags, they will discover they also desire to own the Tags they are targeting. If there are 4 advertisers and 4 publishers fighting to own the same sets of Tags, what do you think will happen to the value of these Tags? They will continue to rise until the investment thresholds of these advertisers and publishers are reached. Since advertisers and publishers are actual businesses, they should have much higher investment thresholds than individual Tag Traders.

Think about this from the view of a referrer. What if you had a few referrals who were advertisers or publishers? What if these referrals were fighting to control niche Tags that relate to their websites, products, or services? How would that impact your income?

Say, for example, that a few major shoe websites joined tagvillage and published our ad widget. Also, a few major shoe manufacturers and shoe retailers join as advertisers. Very soon, these major businesses are trading shoe related Tags back and forth, higher and higher in price. What if your referral was a major shoe manufacturer and they spent $5,000 for a shoe related Tag and then their competition purchased it from them? What type of commission would you earn if your referral sold a Tag for $6,500? You would earn $325 from that sale.

Interesting. Imagine the income you could make if you had a few major advertisers or publishers as referrals! Just by your referrals fighting over the Tags that relate to their businesses, you could be earning HUGE monthly paychecks!

We are a few short days aways from a major event. Very soon, tagvillage will be making direct sales presentations to thousands of publishers and advertisers. These publishers and advertisers will be registering with tagvillage, building their profiles, and creating their targeted Tags lists. And, they will begin to fight with each other to own Tags related to their websites, products, and services.

Most of these advertisers and publishers will register directly with tagvillage and will be ‘house’ referrals. So, we started thinking, what if tagvillage offered these advertisers and publishers to our existing members as referrals? This would be an AMAZING way to REWARD our members. You are part of our original membership. You believed in tagvillage and helped us build it from the very beginning. So, we feel we should reward you with a PLATINUM OPPORTUNITY!

Watch the BackOffice this weekend for the announcement of the Millionaires Club. We truly appreciate you. We know you believed in tagvillage in the earliest stages and you have contributed greatly to our growth. Therefore, we want to reward you with the MOST INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY that will ever exist for tagvillage members. This weekend, we will announce an extremely limited opportunity for our original members to get TONS of advertisers and publishers as REFERRALS!

Just imagine if you had 5 or 10 professional advertisers and publishers as your referrals! Imagine if they were constantly buying and selling Tags for $5,000 or $10,000 or $25,000 at a time! How much commission would you be earning every time your major referrals sold a Tag worth $25,000? Incredible!

CLICK HERE - to join the Millionaires Club!

Online Advertising Distribution Revolution

Posted by admin on April 28th, 2012

There is a lot about Tagvillage on this site and for good reason. It is one of the very few very good opportunities that has a potential that is so good it is not likely to be seen very often in a persons lifetime. It is amazing that people go from opportunity to opportunity while not seeing how massive the potential of what they already have in front of them.

The last news item posted on the tagvillage site detailed where it sees itself and what it really is about. I have reproduced it in part below. To see the full article click here

The Bull’s-Eye in Sight

April 20, 2012

Those of you who have been along for the entire ride have seen many refinements over the past 18 months. I am happy to say, as CEO of the company, I have never before felt more assured that we are on the right path. Today we have a clear objective coupled with a precise plan of attack.

During my lifetime as a businessman, I have learned many important lessons. Among these, I learned what every single truly successful business has that makes them leap to the top. First, every truly successful business has a core purpose, a reason the founders wake up every day and go to work. Second, every truly successful business has identified a real problem in an industry and provided a solution. I must admit to you that until recently, I have always felt we did not have a clearly defined method to attain our core purpose, nor had we identified a real problem so that we may provide the solution.

The past 6 months has been especially important for tagvillage as a business. We struggled through a few financing exercises with investors. We looked deeply into our business model. We looked deeply into our software and development process. I spent 1 month with our development team in Ukraine researching, identifying real problems, and discussing possible solutions. I am happy to say that we now have all the important ingredients to develop a truly successful, dominant business. We know exactly what our core purpose is. We have defined our precise business. We have identified real problems within the industry. We have the resources and knowledge to provide the solutions. We have a clear plan of attack.

What is our core purpose? Causes.

We always wanted to be a resource for humanitarian interests around the world. Therefore, we have set a rule that 100% of our future development shall be centered on Causes. From this day forward, every single product we develop will have Causes at the core. We are about to revolutionize the online advertising industry with a means to continuously apply positive affect to the Causes that advertisers, publishers, and viewers hold dear to their hearts.

What is our true business? Online Advertising Delivery.

We are not a search engine, nor do we have the resources to build one. We are not a social network, nor do we have the ability to compete in this field. We are an online advertising delivery platform. From this day forward, every single product we develop will focus on the efficient, effective delivery of advertisements through multiple online channels, while simultaneously benefiting Causes.

Are there problems or ‘broken’ products in our industry? YES.

After much research, we found the majority of the participants in the $80 Billion online advertising industry share the same three primary complaints:

Transparency
Indexing
Creative Ideas

The most common complaint in the online advertising industry focuses on Transparency. Including Google AdSense and DoubleClick, there is not a single advertising network in existence which provides complete transparency to the participants. Ad networks claim to have thousands of publishers, but they do not disclose them to the advertisers. Publishing networks claim to have thousands of advertisers, but they do not disclose them to the publishers. It is impossible for an advertiser to know exactly where all their ads appeared. What pages were they on? What videos were they next to? What articles were they ‘sponsoring’?

What if there were an advertising network that fully disclosed 100% of every detail to the advertisers and publishers? What if advertisers could get a report of every single page and location on the page where their ads appeared each month? What if publishers were told which ads appeared on their sites, who the advertiser was, what Tag they were targeting, and how much they were bidding? This is what tagvillage is building now. Within the next few months, we will be offering the ONLY online advertising platform that is 100% transparent. Both advertisers and publishers will have access to any and all information they wish, even the information that Google and other networks refuse to disclose.

The second most common complaint revolves around Indexing. Every single advertising network in existence uses search-based indexing. In other words, when a publisher submits their website to the network, a spider reviews the page and then a complex algorithm is used to determine the major keywords or topics of the page. Once these keywords are determined, the page is ‘indexed’ into the ad network database and assigned a small set of primary keywords. From this point forward, all ads displayed on the page must relate to this small set of keywords.

While this is a good solution when it comes to relevance (placing ads on pages that actually relate to the content of the page), it is not a good solution when it comes to variety. Many publishers complain that the ads on their pages are the same ‘ole same ‘ole. The only way to get different ads to appear is to completely rewrite the page and wish that the ad network assigns different keywords when they re-index the page. Unfortunately, this rarely happens.

What if publishers were given a say in the indexing of their own pages? What if publishers were allowed to change the set of keywords that were being targeted? What if we only relied partially on computers to do the match-making and we allowed human brains to be involved? This is the solution tagvillage will provide to the indexing problem. Very soon, we will offer the ONLY online advertising platform where publishers have some control over the Tags that are targeted by ads on their pages. If ads get old and stagnant, they can change up their indexing list and suddenly have new, fresh ad content on their sites!

The final major complaint in the industry relates to creativity and suggestions. None of the major ad networks offer creative assistance with ad content or keyword targeting. Networks such as Google provide keyword research tools, but they are not ‘creative suggestors’. Instead, they are simply search-based results. If the owner of a blog about nature searches ‘nature’ or ‘forest’ or ‘bird watching’ on the Google network, he will be given a list of keywords related to past searches involving these words.

What if advertisers were given tools to help them find creative ideas? What if the owner of the nature blog entered ‘nature’ into the system and an actual human suggested he show ads related to ‘eco furniture’ on his blog? A computer could NEVER make this suggestion. A person could. What if an advertiser wanted to create 5 variations of an ad and let thousands of people ‘vote’ on the best one and make creative suggestions?

tagvillage will provide solutions for the creativity problem. We are building tools that will allow publishers to interact with Tag Traders and advertisers so they display ads on their sites more creatively. We are building tools that will allow Tag Traders to ‘suggest’ the Tags publishers and advertisers target. We are building tools to allow advertisers to ‘test’ their ad content and receive creative feedback from thousands of viewers.

In addition to all these solutions, we plan to give Tag Traders some say in the ‘indexing’ and frequency their Tags are targeted by ads. One of the most important aspects we will use to determine if a Tag gets targeted is the value of the Tag. When we have an option between two relevant Tags that could be targeted by an ad on a publisher’s page, we will most often choose the more valuable Tag (the one with the highest price in our system). Therefore, if you want to ensure that your Tags are targeted more than your competitors Tags, you must focus on Tag value.

As you can see, we have a laser focus on a bull’s-eye. We know exactly what our core purpose is. We know exactly what business we are in. We have identified 3 major problems in our industry. We are building the solutions for these problems. I have never before felt more confident in the direction our company is moving. I think we could easily become a powerful force in the online advertising industry. The majority of the industry is complaining about the ‘brokenness’ of the current products offered by our competition. We will soon release a product that solves their problems effectively and efficiently.

Finally a company with foresight and enough integrity to give its customers and members exactly what they want. It is these sorts of companies that drive industries and make enormous amounts of money. This is something you should get involved with.

Stick to what works

Posted by admin on April 18th, 2012

How often have you heard the phrase, ‘if it aint broke, don’t fix it’. When you have something that is working you stick with it right. The problem in online marketing is many people do not follow through enough to get the things working in the first place. So it seems many people will just jump from one thing to another continually never really getting anything to work. then they wonder how some people have success with just one program.

The hard part is finding what works. The reality is that many programs will work, but most will only work for people that get referrals. There are a few programs that do not require referrals to be able to earn and they can be a lot more attractive to people who are not recruiters. The rewards may be lower without referrals but as long as you can make a profit its all good.

I have often said I prefer the sorts of programs but at the same time some of them I am very wary of as some of them are setup in a ponzi type of way. JSS is one like that and I have reiterated that I cannot see how it can continue on but it is still very popular. Lots of people have made money with it, many with referrals but also others with none. I even talked with one who has made thousands with only one friend as a referral. Admitably that person invested several thousand to start with and after a few months had their money back. That is one way to do it.

I still prefer programs that I know have an outside income like Zeek Rewards. It is the stability of the income that gains a lot of confidence. Also they have done a lot to comply with legal regulations costing a lot of money. This also is a positive and shows they are in for the long term. The site has really grown and many people are making good money from it.

Then there is Tagvillage. This is really the diamond in the rough. Although they have not made people rich there are people earning an income from it but right now it is just in infancy. The money has not really arrived yet. Once the widgets are completed and marketed then things will really start heating up. This is supposed to happen in June 2012. Then the advertising section will be developed and income will once again increase. It is the people that are involved now while it is still being built that will make big returns when everyone else is trying to jump on board.

While these three programs are not necessarily certain to make you money if you join, you are more likely to with these than with many others. When it all comes down to it that is why we are here, to make money.

To join any of the programs listed click it’s name below

JSS - Justbeenpaid

Zeek Rewards

Tagvillage

Money Doublers – Jackpot or Lottery?

Posted by admin on January 30th, 2012

Money doublers are attractive, put money in and it magically doubles. Sometimes in just a few days or even hours. Some last weeks, some days and some don’t even get going to start with. So in a way some people hit the jackpot an make a large amount of money while others are basically paying for it. I think you need to treat these more like a lottery, if you win great but do not depend on it. Some you may put in and weeks later it may pay off for you and that is great, some may work much quicker or not at all. Recently there has been a lot of these programs starting up and here is why.

It started with a program Dollar Monster that was bought out by a new admin and relaunched. Because of the large member base it meant a lot of people saw benefit very quickly. The program was promoted as CashFlowBot and quickly took off like wildfire. Soon big investors put in large amounts of money making those already in see their money double very quickly. Everyone was excited and looking to doubling again and again. The momentum built more and more with thousands of dollars starting to be deposited hourly. People thought it would continue to speed up.

So what is the problem? Well with so much activity the site had to shut down to perform a server upgrade. Many thought the momentum would continue. The previous day had over $200,000 deposited, a hard thing to continue. Once back online things started moving again but at a reduced rate. The deposits got less and less meaning that less people were cycling. By this time there was over 7000 lines waiting to cycle and the amount required to be deposited for the last ones was closing in on a million dollars.

This is where it gets ugly, less deposits, less cycling, less happy people. Some start to put in refund requests which further complicates it for the admin. Realise this is not a scam it is just the way this sort of doubler works. The only way to make less lines is to have another income source to pay out extra lines. It managed to get to over 8000 lines.

So while dollar monster has slowed it is still cycling some people, just very, very slowly. The funny thing is, if it was to cycle every person in a year period that would mean doubling their money in a year. For most people that would seem like a good return. Not to the people involved in Dollar Monster though who seem to think the program has failed if they do not cycle in a few days time.

But people got the taste for it and others looking to jump on the success started launching their own doublers.

So up jumped many new programs, some using the same scripts, some subtle differences some promoted better than others. All attracted at least some people and with numbers any could claim success. Still none have taken off like cashflowbot did. In a way it is strange that so many were holding out and still depositing in there when they could have had much better success elsewhere. I think it was because so many people still had money stuck in there.

Momentum is a big thing in a doubler and it is also a strange one. A doubler that does not get too big could potentially relaunch with more success than it originally had. It is important for a program to get a good start. One that seems to be doing it right by doing a decent prelaunch is megaflowbot. At time of writing it has not yet started taking deposits and already has over 400 members. This means when it starts it will have quick cycles. It is also using the same script as cashflowbot was.

Don’t discount the small not as popular ones either. As mentioned it only takes a bit of good promotion to really get them going and success breeds success. If you are involved with one that is early and not moving much then you should help to promote it. That is if you have trust in the admin and program itself. This way you will be more likely to make money from it.

It is important to remember that the money you put into a doubler is money you should be prepared to lose. Why do I say that? Well there are things that could go wrong. Members may stop depositing money making the cycles stop, the admin may be bad, I have even seen one where the admin had the site closed down by his government. To his credit he refunded everyone. THe worst thing you could do is put all of your money into a doubler and not get a return. So the best thing to do is put some in that you are prepared to lose. When your money doubles you can choose to put the lot back in or just half. If you do the latter you are playing with money you did not have at the start so if you lose it you are back where you started.

As I said though you can make some money in these, you just have to go about it the right way. Once you are playing with money earned it is a good idea to only put in half amounts so you are always in profit. If it is really early in the program or has really solid momentum and quick cycles then you may be better doing a full amount after your first double to maximise the return.

Always keep tabs on what your money is doing, is it moving, is the program doing anything, are members growing etc. These can provide insight as to whether you should risk another double or not. The hardest ones to gauge are programs that have few members. They would still have the capability to takeoff at any time. But make your own judgements.

Here are some that I have been involved with

Cash Flow Bot – I would recommend NOT investing. There is too many lines and you will not cycle

Lite Cycler – I know the admin of this one, he is working hard to get it going. There is very few members currently so a good time to join and get a deposit high in the list. He will be working on getting a lot of people involved. Payments for cycles are instantly sent to Alertpay.

Mega Flow Bot – as mentioned it has had a lot of interest in pre-launch and looks like having over 500 members for launch, so definately check it out. The key will be what happens after it opens to deposits and how much momentum gets going. There is potential for this one to grow very big.

Elite Dollar Makers

- The admin here is very good as well. He has been in contact with members and has been trying to do the best for the members. This is one of the keys to a good program so worth a shot. It has slowed down and needs some new investment. It has two lines that are not too big to get moving.

Mega Bot Doubler

- This was the first carbon copy of Cash Flow Bot. The big difference was a 50% automatic reinvestment. You also get credits to advertise with banners or text ads. So in a way it is worth doing just for that. There is 591 lines at time of writing and it has slowed so it depends on your reasons.

There are others but these are some of the most current ones to watch.

How have you gone with the doublers?

***UPDATE 02FEB12***

The way doublers work tends to be very quick with new ones opening up almost daily. The doublers above still exist, as I said there is no reason for admins to remove them. It is wise to check them out before investing. As such and due to the nature of them I have taken recommendations off them.

The Truth

Posted by admin on January 27th, 2012

In the time I have been involved with online or network marketing I have seen a large amount of different sorts of business opportunities come and go. I have been involved with a number of them mostly with little success. One thing I have learned is that the companies that a lot of people tend to like and do better with are the ones that they can can earn from without the need for referrals. Usually referrals will increase their income opportunity but there is few opportunities that do not require them to earn.

MLMs, cyclers, list builds etc all are based on members managing to find a number of others so they can earn. Usually these are based on a monthly charge although some have a one time fee only. The problem is that recruiting others is the hardest thing to do for 95% of people. Making it even harder, when they start they have not yet earned. So invariably the question will come up, ‘how much are you earning?’. Unfortunately they do not have a good answer to this. It is because of this that many people will give up before they have earned anything. That in turn means the people above them lose a member and the process can become tough for people to maintain a income trying to fill in the empty spots that are created. Of course there are people that are great recruiters and get thousands of people involved very quickly and make a heap of money from the start. They are the other 5%.

There are alternatives out there where people basically have control of their own destiny. By being able to earn without referrals it actually becomes easier to get referrals. It sounds wrong but it is true and I will tell you why. The member who joins and starts creating an income without referrals has a lot of confidence in the program. They can share it telling others that they managed to make money without needing anyone else. This then gives the other people more confidence to start and they are more likely to signup. This remains true whether there is a monthly charge or not.

It is easy to identify these types of opportunities. All you have to do is ask yourself one question. Can I earn from this opportunity and get paid without having a referral? If the compensation plan shows that you cannot then it is the more common type like the ones I mentioned above. I should also stress that I am not telling you to only join opportunities that you do not need one as there are very good mlms that you can be involved in and the cost is fair for what you are receiving even if you do not earn from it.

In the long run if you want to make a lot of money online then you do want to have a good referral base. It is the law of duplication. While it is great to be able to earn with your own effort, to be able to get a percentage of others effort to contribute to your earnings will greatly leverage your income. This is something that you should grow consistently. While doing so you will get the best results by teaching your referrals how to earn themselves. If they are earning then they will remain active which means you will continue to benefit. You need to teach them how to find referrals and teach them the same. If you can do this you will constantly have an increasingly profitable business.

It is important to not just find a heap of people to join either. It is far better to have 3-5 good referrals that are active than a couple of hundred that are doing nothing. You need to work with the people that are wanting to learn and earn. Look after them and help them achieve some success. This will repay you in the end as they will be faithful to you and also recommend you to others. Every person that you have like that is gold. Try to work with people to get them to that stage and you will have a thriving and very profitable business. You will also make lifelong friendships.

The best leaders will make the time to help their people. Remember that when you have people following you. Everyone starts with a different amount of resources and situation. It is good to learn about them to see what they want to achieve, how much they are willing to commit, what their strengths and weaknesses are. That way you can better determine the best way for them to grow.

Tagvillage Tag Guru Results

Posted by admin on January 21st, 2012

The contest is over and I’m happy to say I finished 4th. The contest was a great way for people to increase their tag portfolio and earn some prize money. If you are not already involved I suggest you join, click on the banner on the page and register. This is a nice bonus leading up to the big money that will arrive with the advertising widget. Here are the results;

Final Tag Guru Contest Results

Jan. 5, 2012

The official contest results are in! Your personal winnings are listed above and on the left hand column of every page. We will display the balance of your prize until it is paid in full. The first payment will be paid on February 20th, 2012.

THE OFFICIAL 2012 TAG GURU IS:
Nikolaus Kirchler (dinoo)
Guru Prize: 143,297.79 Credits

THE OFFICIAL 2012 CHOSEN ONES ARE:
1. Nikolaus Kirchler (dinoo)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 4 | Master Stars: 226
Prize: 143,297.79 Credits

2. Elizabeth Laguardia (slider)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 107
Prize: 30,916.81 Credits

3. Yana Svara (kaimanayana)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 3 | Master Stars: 89
Prize: 29,533.83 Credits

4. David Newman (denewman)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 64
Prize: 26,659.38 Credits

5. Roger Bice (Valuegreen)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 44
Prize: 24,679.19 Credits

FINAL STAR VALUES:
Apprentice Star: 123.15 Credits
Journeyman Star: 199.60 Credits
Master Star: 99.01 Credits

Congratulations to our Chosen Ones and the official 2012 Tag Guru! You guys deserve it! You worked very hard to accomplish this amazing feat! We pray that every member had a lot of fun and truly enjoyed the Tag Guru Contest. Stay tuned, there is an even better contest with more incredible prizes planned for the near future!

The fun is just beginning

CashFlowBot – Will Your Money Double?

Posted by admin on January 13th, 2012

I recently mentioned that this program was flying along and it truely was. Money was doubling in under 2 days it seemed great and didn’t look like slowing down. Then the worst thing that could happen did. With so much activity it was necessary to update the server. This resulted in about 20 hours of downtime. In the bigger scheme of things that is not a lot but after such a huge previous day with over $200,000 deposited the ensuing day was a disappointment.

People blamed Alertpay issues and certain people that deposited as much as $20,000 for the slowdown in cycles. The reality is that the more people that cycle the more it will take to go through everyone to cycle again. The only way for people to cycle faster is for a constantly growing amount of money coming in. That is not infinately sustainable so while it is hot it is great but unless there is income from somewhere else to help with the cycling it is bound to continue to slow, even if the same amount of money is going in.

One thing is for sure Cashflowbot has really done well to get where it has. There has been over a million dollars deposited so far. There was around $38,000 deposited in the last day. A long way off the amounts prior to the server change. Cycling is around 10-15 per hour meaning new investments will take a long time to cycle if they do at all. There is no reason for the site to close down and I would say that now is when the admin should be sourcing an extra income source to push up the cycling rate without requiring extra deposits. People have to be prepared that if they deposit money it could be stuck there for a long time.

If there is a solution that moves the cycling rate up then it will be a great thing. When you think about it, even if it took a year to double your money that is still a great result. The problem is people do not want it to take a year, they want it to be as quick as possible. With the rate slowing so much it will have to be marketed differently to find people with more patience.

My Recommendation

I am reluctant to deposit any more into this one as the risk is great now that funds coming in will dry up meaning cycling will stop altogether. There are much more reliable programs that you can earn from.

If you are going to make a deposit I would suggest you do not make it one that you can not afford to lose. There is over 8300 positions that will cycle before yours so be patient. If it takes a month or more to double your money you have still done well.

2012 Start Profiting

Posted by admin on January 8th, 2012

Time flies and we need to make the most of it. While most people were out partying as the new year came in I was frantically helping people qualify for the apprentice prize in the tag Guru contest. I could have just let it be as I already had a pretty good number of Master stars and was of the thoughts that I probably wouldn’t have enough to get in the top 5.

So the time I spent certainly worked to help a lot of people in the last couple of days qualify for their prize. Two days ago the results of the contest were published.

FINAL CONTEST RESULTS

THE OFFICIAL 2012 TAG GURU IS:
Nikolaus Kirchler (dinoo)
Guru Prize: 143,297.79 Credits

THE OFFICIAL 2012 CHOSEN ONES ARE:
1. Nikolaus Kirchler (dinoo)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 4 | Master Stars: 226
Prize: 143,297.79 Credits2. Elizabeth Laguardia (slider)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 107
Prize: 30,916.81 Credits

3. Yana Svara (kaimanayana)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars:3 | Master Stars: 89
Prize: 29,533.83 Credits

4. David Newman (denewman)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 64
Prize: 26,659.38 Credits

5. Roger Bice (Valuegreen)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 44
Prize: 24,679.19 Credits

FINAL STAR VALUES:
Apprentice Star: 123.15 Credits
Journeyman Star: 199.60 Credits
Master Star: 99.01 Credits

So in the end the sacrifice to help others certainly paid off. The truth is though that I expect the commissions that will come from the tagvertising will be far more than any of the prizes paid.

The real reward was in helping those that would not have otherwise managed to achieve in the contest.It will be very interesting to see the next big contest possibly as soon as next month.

What Else is Happening

I like to keep in touch with what is going on and the latest ‘big thing’ is a new website that doubles your money. Is it legit or just a ponzi? Well it is basically a doubler and claims to have been in business since 2004

***See update post regarding Cashflowbot***

While the site may have originated in 2004 the program in its current form was only started in the last few days of December. So in reality it has only been a week or so. It has certainly taken off though as already over $400,000 has been put through it and there is just over 10,000 members. Current doubling time is around 2 days which is very quick.

The question is how long can it last. Momentum is there and as long as people are reinvesting their money it will move. But the longer it runs the more it need put in to fully cycle everyones payments. So at some point it is bound to slow down.

Is it worth joining? I would say as a speculative investment sure but don’t expect it to be something to solve all your online income needs. If you put money in and it gets through to the top you will double your money. If it slows to a crawl you may end up not getting there. Right now there is increasing money going in every day. So far today at 9am server time there has already been $48,000 deposited. It is taking between 2-3 days to double. I am sure that will change but it is worth putting a little in while the going is good.

5 For Free

With a few teething problems 5ForFree launched with a rather quiet stampede. Unlike a lot of promotions most members joining were already in waiting lists to start. What makes this program different is that you can join and earn from free members. It is not uncommon to earn from paying members but from free members it is.

As soon as you join up and complete an offer you will get credited $5. For anyone that joins you you will then make commissions on three levels. Even though they are not paying anything.

There is an optional upgrade to the program which increases your earnings substantially. You can start as a free member and upgrade later, or even remain a free member the whole time. This is one that has already got thousands of members but is relatively unknown.

With the option to be a member for free and earn commissions from other free members this is a good one to get on.

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