Money Doublers – Jackpot or Lottery?

Money doublers are attractive, put money in and it magically doubles. Sometimes in just a few days or even hours. Some last weeks, some days and some don’t even get going to start with. So in a way some people hit the jackpot an make a large amount of money while others are basically paying for it. I think you need to treat these more like a lottery, if you win great but do not depend on it. Some you may put in and weeks later it may pay off for you and that is great, some may work much quicker or not at all. Recently there has been a lot of these programs starting up and here is why.

It started with a program Dollar Monster that was bought out by a new admin and relaunched. Because of the large member base it meant a lot of people saw benefit very quickly. The program was promoted as CashFlowBot and quickly took off like wildfire. Soon big investors put in large amounts of money making those already in see their money double very quickly. Everyone was excited and looking to doubling again and again. The momentum built more and more with thousands of dollars starting to be deposited hourly. People thought it would continue to speed up.

happy people with money

So what is the problem? Well with so much activity the site had to shut down to perform a server upgrade. Many thought the momentum would continue. The previous day had over $200,000 deposited, a hard thing to continue. Once back online things started moving again but at a reduced rate. The deposits got less and less meaning that less people were cycling. By this time there was over 7000 lines waiting to cycle and the amount required to be deposited for the last ones was closing in on a million dollars.

This is where it gets ugly, less deposits, less cycling, less happy people. Some start to put in refund requests which further complicates it for the admin. Realise this is not a scam it is just the way this sort of doubler works. The only way to make less lines is to have another income source to pay out extra lines. It managed to get to over 8000 lines.

So while dollar monster slowed it still cycled some people, just very, very slowly. The funny thing is, if it was to cycle every person in a year period that would mean doubling their money in a year. For most people that would seem like a good return. Not to the people involved in Dollar Monster though who seem to think the program has failed if they do not cycle in a few days time.


But people got the taste for it and others looking to jump on the success started launching their own doublers.

So up jumped many new programs, some using the same scripts, some subtle differences some promoted better than others. All attracted at least some people and with numbers any could claim success. Still none have taken off like cashflowbot did. In a way it is strange that so many were holding out and still depositing in there when they could have had much better success elsewhere. I think it was because so many people still had money stuck in there.

Momentum is a big thing in a doubler and it is also a strange one. A doubler that does not get too big could potentially relaunch with more success than it originally had. It is important for a program to get a good start. One that seems to be doing it right by doing a decent prelaunch is megaflowbot. At time of writing it has not yet started taking deposits and already has over 400 members. This means when it starts it will have quick cycles. It is also using the same script as cashflowbot was.

Don’t discount the small not as popular ones either. As mentioned it only takes a bit of good promotion to really get them going and success breeds success. If you are involved with one that is early and not moving much then you should help to promote it. That is if you have trust in the admin and program itself. This way you will be more likely to make money from it.

It is important to remember that the money you put into a doubler is money you should be prepared to lose. Why do I say that? Well there are things that could go wrong. Members may stop depositing money making the cycles stop, the admin may be bad, I have even seen one where the admin had the site closed down by his government. To his credit he refunded everyone. The worst thing you could do is put all of your money into a doubler and not get a return. So the best thing to do is put some in that you are prepared to lose. When your money doubles you can choose to put the lot back in or just half. If you do the latter you are playing with money you did not have at the start so if you lose it you are back where you started.

As I said though you can make some money in these, you just have to go about it the right way. Once you are playing with money earned it is a good idea to only put in half amounts so you are always in profit. If it is really early in the program or has really solid momentum and quick cycles then you may be better doing a full amount after your first double to maximise the return.

Always keep tabs on what your money is doing, is it moving, is the program doing anything, are members growing etc. These can provide insight as to whether you should risk another double or not. The hardest ones to gauge are programs that have few members. They would still have the capability to takeoff at any time. But make your own judgements.

Here are some that I have been involved with ***UPDATE*** Since this article was written all of the programs below have ceased. Cyclers have a short lifespan as mentioned and eventually die. All cyclers work that way so use any new ones you find at your own risk. Only put money in you are prepared to lose.

Cash Flow Bot – I would recommend NOT investing. There is too many lines and you will not cycle

Lite Cycler – The admin of this one is working hard to get it going. There is very few members currently so a good time to join and get a deposit high in the list. He will be working on getting a lot of people involved. Payments for cycles are instantly sent to Alertpay.


Mega Flow Bot – as mentioned it has had a lot of interest in pre-launch and looks like having over 500 members for launch, so definately check it out. The key will be what happens after it opens to deposits and how much momentum gets going. There is potential for this one to grow very big.

Elite Dollar Makers

– The admin here is very good as well. He has been in contact with members and has been trying to do the best for the members. This is one of the keys to a good program so worth a shot. It has slowed down and needs some new investment. It has two lines that are not too big to get moving.  

Mega Bot Doubler

– This was the first carbon copy of Cash Flow Bot. The big difference was a 50% automatic reinvestment. You also get credits to advertise with banners or text ads. So in a way it is worth doing just for that. There is 591 lines at time of writing and it has slowed so it depends on your reasons.

There are others but these are some of the most current ones to watch.

How have you gone with the doublers?

***UPDATE 02FEB12***

The way doublers work tends to be very quick with new ones opening up almost daily. The doublers above still exist, as I said there is no reason for admins to remove them. It is wise to check them out before investing. As such and due to the nature of them I have taken recommendations off them.

The Truth

In the time I have been involved with online or network marketing I have seen a large amount of different sorts of business opportunities come and go. I have been involved with a number of them mostly with little success. One thing I have learned is that the companies that a lot of people tend to like and do better with are the ones that they can can earn from without the need for referrals. Usually referrals will increase their income opportunity but there is few opportunities that do not require them to earn.
MLMs, cyclers, list builds etc all are based on members managing to find a number of others so they can earn. Usually these are based on a monthly charge although some have a one time fee only. The problem is that recruiting others is the hardest thing to do for 95% of people. Making it even harder, when they start they have not yet earned. So invariably the question will come up, ‘how much are you earning?’. Unfortunately they do not have a good answer to this. It is because of this that many people will give up before they have earned anything. That in turn means the people above them lose a member and the process can become tough for people to maintain a income trying to fill in the empty spots that are created. Of course there are people that are great recruiters and get thousands of people involved very quickly and make a heap of money from the start. They are the other 5%.
There are alternatives out there where people basically have control of their own destiny. By being able to earn without referrals it actually becomes easier to get referrals. It sounds wrong but it is true and I will tell you why. The member who joins and starts creating an income without referrals has a lot of confidence in the program. They can share it telling others that they managed to make money without needing anyone else. This then gives the other people more confidence to start and they are more likely to signup. This remains true whether there is a monthly charge or not.
It is easy to identify these types of opportunities. All you have to do is ask yourself one question. Can I earn from this opportunity and get paid without having a referral? If the compensation plan shows that you cannot then it is the more common type like the ones I mentioned above. I should also stress that I am not telling you to only join opportunities that you do not need one as there are very good mlms that you can be involved in and the cost is fair for what you are receiving even if you do not earn from it.
In the long run if you want to make a lot of money online then you do want to have a good referral base. It is the law of duplication. While it is great to be able to earn with your own effort, to be able to get a percentage of others effort to contribute to your earnings will greatly leverage your income. This is something that you should grow consistently. While doing so you will get the best results by teaching your referrals how to earn themselves. If they are earning then they will remain active which means you will continue to benefit. You need to teach them how to find referrals and teach them the same. If you can do this you will constantly have an increasingly profitable business.
It is important to not just find a heap of people to join either. It is far better to have 3-5 good referrals that are active than a couple of hundred that are doing nothing. You need to work with the people that are wanting to learn and earn. Look after them and help them achieve some success. This will repay you in the end as they will be faithful to you and also recommend you to others. Every person that you have like that is gold. Try to work with people to get them to that stage and you will have a thriving and very profitable business. You will also make lifelong friendships.
The best leaders will make the time to help their people. Remember that when you have people following you. Everyone starts with a different amount of resources and situation. It is good to learn about them to see what they want to achieve, how much they are willing to commit, what their strengths and weaknesses are. That way you can better determine the best way for them to grow. 

Tagvillage Tag Guru Results

The contest is over and I’m happy to say I finished 4th. The contest was a great way for people to increase their tag portfolio and earn some prize money. If you are not already involved I suggest you join, click on the banner on the page and register. This is a nice bonus leading up to the  big money that will arrive with the advertising widget. Here are the results;


Final Tag Guru Contest Results

Jan. 5, 2012

The official contest results are in! Your personal winnings are listed above and on the left hand column of every page. We will display the balance of your prize until it is paid in full. The first payment will be paid on February 20th, 2012.

Nikolaus Kirchler (dinoo)
Guru Prize: 143,297.79 Credits

1. Nikolaus Kirchler (dinoo)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 4 | Master Stars: 226
Prize: 143,297.79 Credits

2. Elizabeth Laguardia (slider)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 107
Prize: 30,916.81 Credits

3. Yana Svara (kaimanayana)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 3 | Master Stars: 89
Prize: 29,533.83 Credits

4. David Newman (denewman)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 64
Prize: 26,659.38 Credits

5. Roger Bice (Valuegreen)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 44
Prize: 24,679.19 Credits

Apprentice Star: 123.15 Credits
Journeyman Star: 199.60 Credits
Master Star: 99.01 Credits

Congratulations to our Chosen Ones and the official 2012 Tag Guru! You guys deserve it! You worked very hard to accomplish this amazing feat! We pray that every member had a lot of fun and truly enjoyed the Tag Guru Contest. Stay tuned, there is an even better contest with more incredible prizes planned for the near future!

The fun is just beginning

CashFlowBot – Will Your Money Double?

I recently mentioned that this program was flying along and it truely was. Money was doubling in under 2 days it seemed great and didn’t look like slowing down. Then the worst thing that could happen did. With so much activity it was necessary to update the server. This resulted in about 20 hours of downtime. In the bigger scheme of things that is not a lot but after such a huge previous day with over $200,000 deposited the ensuing day was a disappointment.

People blamed Alertpay issues and certain people that deposited as much as $20,000 for the slowdown in cycles. The reality is that the more people that cycle the more it will take to go through everyone to cycle again. The only way for people to cycle faster is for a constantly growing amount of money coming in. That is not infinately sustainable so while it is hot it is great but unless there is income from somewhere else to help with the cycling it is bound to continue to slow, even if the same amount of money is going in.

One thing is for sure Cashflowbot has really done well to get where it has. There has been over a million dollars deposited so far. There was around $38,000 deposited in the last day. A long way off the amounts prior to the server change. Cycling is around 10-15 per hour  meaning new investments will take a long time to cycle if they do at all. There is no reason for the site to close down and I would say that now is when the admin should be sourcing an extra income source to push up the cycling rate without requiring extra deposits. People have to be prepared that if they deposit money it could be stuck there for a long time.

If there is a solution that moves the cycling rate up then it will be a great thing. When you think about it, even if it took a year to double your money that is still a great result. The problem is people do not want it to take a year, they want it to be as quick as possible. With the rate slowing so much it will have to be marketed differently to find people with more patience.

My Recommendation

I am reluctant to deposit any more into this one as the risk is great now that funds coming in will dry up meaning cycling will stop altogether. There are much more reliable programs that you can earn from.

If you are going to make a deposit I would suggest you do not make it one that you can not afford to lose. There is over 8300 positions that will cycle before yours so be patient. If it takes a month or more to double your money you have still done well.

2012 Start Profiting

Time flies and we need to make the most of it. While most people were out partying as the new year came in I was frantically helping people qualify for the apprentice prize in the tag Guru contest. I could have just let it be as I already had a pretty good number of Master stars and was of the thoughts that I probably wouldn’t have enough to get in the top 5.

So the time I spent certainly worked to help a lot of people in the last couple of days qualify for their prize. Two days ago the results of the contest were published.

The official contest results are in! Your personal winnings are listed above and on the left hand column of every page. We will display the balance of your prize until it is paid in full. The first payment will be paid on February 20th, 2012.
Nikolaus Kirchler (dinoo)
Guru Prize: 143,297.79 Credits
1. Nikolaus Kirchler (dinoo)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 4 | Master Stars: 226
Prize: 143,297.79 Credits2. Elizabeth Laguardia (slider)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 107
Prize: 30,916.81 Credits

3. Yana Svara (kaimanayana)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars:3 | Master Stars: 89
Prize: 29,533.83 Credits

4. David Newman (denewman)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 64
Prize: 26,659.38 Credits

5. Roger Bice (Valuegreen)
Apprentice Stars: 1 | Journeyman Stars: 1 | Master Stars: 44
Prize: 24,679.19 Credits

Apprentice Star: 123.15 Credits
Journeyman Star: 199.60 Credits
Master Star: 99.01 Credits
Congratulations to our Chosen Ones and the official 2012 Tag Guru! You guys deserve it! You worked very hard to accomplish this amazing feat! We pray that every member had a lot of fun and truly enjoyed the Tag Guru Contest. Stay tuned, there is an even better contest with more incredible prizes planned for the near future!

So in the end the sacrifice to help others certainly paid off. The truth is though that I expect the commissions that will come from the tagvertising will be far more than any of the prizes paid.

The real reward was in helping those that would not have otherwise managed to achieve in the contest.It will be very interesting to see the next big contest possibly as soon as next month.

Tagvillage Tag Guru Contest Prize


What Else is Happening

I like to keep in touch with what is going on and the latest ‘big thing’ is a new website that doubles your money. Is it legit or just a ponzi? Well it is basically a doubler and claims to have been in business since 2004

***See update post regarding Cashflowbot***

While the site may have originated in 2004 the program in its current form was only started in the last few days of December. So in reality it has only been a week or so. It has certainly taken off though as already over $400,000 has been put through it and there is just over 10,000 members. Current doubling time is around 2 days which is very quick.

The question is how long can it last. Momentum is there and as long as people are reinvesting their money it will move.  But the longer it runs the more it need put in to fully cycle everyones payments. So at some point it is bound to slow down.

Is it worth joining? I would say as a speculative investment sure but don’t expect it to be something to solve all your online income needs. If you put money in and it gets through to the top you will double your money. If it slows to a crawl you may end up not getting there. Right now there is increasing money going in every day. So far today at 9am server time there has already been $48,000 deposited. It is taking between 2-3 days to double. I am sure that will change but it is worth putting a little in while the going is good.


5 For Free

With a few teething problems 5ForFree launched with a rather quiet stampede. Unlike a lot of promotions most members joining were already in waiting lists to start. What makes this program different is that you can join and earn from free members. It is not uncommon to earn from paying members but from free members it is.

As soon as you join up and complete an offer you will get credited $5. For anyone that joins you you will then make commissions on three levels. Even though they are not paying anything.

There is an optional upgrade to the program which increases your earnings substantially. You can start as a free member and upgrade later, or even remain a free member the whole time. This is one that has already got thousands of members but is relatively unknown.

With the option to be a member for free and earn commissions from other free members this is a good one to get on.

Christmas 2011

As it turns into Christmas day around the world, children rush to open presents, people celebrate in their own various ways. Some have lavish dinner parties, some will have big family gatherings, others remain alone.

Christmas Turkey

So while everybody is different life remains the same. People that are well to do sometimes forget about those that are struggling. It is a time of year when the charity type of agencies are working overtime trying to help those less fortunate but they can only do so much.

Some people will say there is nothing they can do as they are too busy. This is often an excuse to do nothing, or they give $2 thinking that is enough to keep their concious clear.

Are we doing enough?

Most people come to this page looking for opportunities to make their own life better. That is why we are here but sometimes we have to think beyond ourselves. What have you done this year to help someone less fortunate? Have you done anything at all? If you haven’t you are not alone, most people get too caught up in their own lives to do something for someone else. Often the excuses flow freely as to why they have not done anything;

  • I have no time
  • I haven’t got money to spare
  • I haven’t got anything they need

Do you really believe it when you say it?

It is amazing to think of how much could be done that isnt. Recently Google announced that they had donated 100 million dollars to charities, concentrated on 4 that they focus on. This sounds like a huge amount right and should be commended. But it isn’t always as good as it sounds.

google Headquarters sign

Google made 9.75 Billion dollars in the 3rd quarter of 2011, yes just the quarter. If we count the first two quarters and project the same for the 4th quarter they will have make just shy of 40 Billion dollars.

This means that their ‘huge’ donation accounts for only 0.25% of the money they made in the year. Let’s put that in perspective. For someone that earned $100,000 in 2011 that would be the same as them making total donations of $250 for the year. It does not seem that big any more does it.

Now don’t get me wrong, it is great that Google donated the money, I am just saying that they could do so much more. The reality it that the amount they donated in comparison to how much they earn is very small. They make a big publicity push about it making them seem so good when reality it that someone donating $500 who earnt $100K for the year has done twice as much as Google. I am pretty sure there are people that have donated much higher in % of income.

I have done a little research and found a good article showing some of the top company charity givers in America.

Read it Here

Now these figures work off % of profit so it is only fair that I tell you that the donation Google made worked out to be 0.82% of profit. Yes less than 1%. Some of the companies in the article gave around 10%, so think of this, if Goggle had given 10% they would have donated 1.22 Billion for the year. Imagine how much more good that would have done!

Christmas has become very commercial and it is easy to gt swept up in it. If you take nothing else away from this article remember this.

The best gift you can give someone is your time.

Now this is especially relevant when it comes to children. I have two boys of my own and as much as they love to play on a computer or watch tv, the time they enjoy the most is when they are doing something with me. That might be going fishing, playing in the backyard, even watching a movie together. My boys are 8 and 12, they both still love to have a cuddle, maybe it makes them feel loved. I wouldn’t change them for the world.

Kid Vs WildFirst Snow

T3 Power Station Talbingo

Kid Tired out

It is so easy to get ‘busy’ and put off spending time with the things that matter most. I do not have a wife, or girlfriend so I do not have time constraints there, but for those that do make sure you give quality time to your partner as well. Make them feel special. If you can make them smile you have won the battle. Give a little more than they expect to get and you will always be in a winning position. Even better you will find that you will receive more in return without asking. The motto of give and you shall receive is truer than you think.

Time is the most precious commodity on earth. During this period when most people have a bit of time off, spend it wisely. Make someones life that little bit happier, whether it be a family member, a child, a friend or even someone you don’t even know.

So all in all I hope you all have a great Christmas however you celebrate it.

Merry Christmas

PS: I did mention I was single so if anyone wants to brighten up my life send me one of these;

2011 Business Opportunities Results

Well it has been too long I admit. As we get close to the end of the year it is very easy to be lazy and relax. Instead with some of the opportunities available to us that is the last thing we should be doing. Unless you are already very successful in your own right this is not the time to sit back and hope that growth will magically begin happening in your business.

Sometimes everything works against you. I have had a huge amount of computer problems in the past few months which has really made things difficult. But we have to work though the hard times.

For some people 2011 has been a great year, for others it will have been a disappointment. Whichever way it was for you there is always the chance to improve it next year. Set your goals and work toward them. Even now you should be thinking of what you want to achieve in 2012.

But 2011 is not over yet and there is still time for a last push towards financial freedom. So many companies have grown well in 2011 and are promising big things for 2012. So here is a wrap up of some of the new and ongoing companies that have been notable in 2011, and some not so notable. Click on the headings to go to the sites.

JSS –Just Been Paid

Ok I admit I steered clear of this for awhile and I still have my reasons to not rate this as a safe option. There is no denying the facts though and JBP has really taken off. The lure of money for nothing is so strong that people have thrown large amounts of money into it. This has meant that some people are pulling a very nice income from it now while most people are fully reinvesting to compound the earnings rather than withdraw.

There does not seem to be any sign of it slowing down soon and it’s Alexa ranking is the envy of many other companies. For those that do not know the return is 2% per day with units bought at $10 each. They earn for 75 days giving a 150% return then are placed in a matrix that when cycled gives another 150% return. Triple your money and many are.

2012 will be make or break for JBP. They will either prove they can move forward with the paying model or will fold in a crumbling heap once members get to a stage they are requesting higher payouts. The key is where the income is coming from. While most members are reinvesting earnings there is no liability on the company. Once that changes and more regular withdrawals are being requested the liability increases. That then means the income has to remain above the withdrawals otherwise the company starts losing money. That is where hyips will normally close down. The most successful ones will generally try to get something else going to increase income again but it isn’t easy. If JBP have another source of income that is paying for the earnings I have not seen it and I have seen several people ask for it with no answer given.

For now JBP is worth throwing some money in to cash in on its popularity. I would definitely recommend not reinvesting the full returns back into it though. Try to get your original investment back and maybe more so the money left in there is extra. My belief is that June will be a key time for JBP. If it is as strong then as it is now that will be a good sign.

Wowwe had the typical start that many companies have. A great deal of interest in the beginning and then the opportunity hoppers disappeared. This is normal though and Wowwe now has the genuine members left after clearing the matrix of the inactive members. Growth has continued and there are some people making great incomes from the work they have put in.

One thing that has not only changed but improved considerably since the start is the opportunity itself. Changes to the compensation plan making it a possibility to earn on infinite levels make it very attractive.

The product is in demand and in a growth industry. More importantly it is something that anyone and everyone can use. Wowwe have a solid company model which is a brick and mortar business. The people behind the company are first class and have the members interests foremost in their minds.

Wowwe has moved on to having seminars around the world and expanding their infrastructure. This is a company that knows what it is doing. They have goals to reach a million members in 2012 and will be pushing towards that goal.

In November Wowwe launched a contest aimed at recruitment. It was giving away several prizes including an iPad.

Marketers should use Wowwe in their business and take advantage of the video conferencing and video email marketing. It is cutting edge and is a valuable resource. To be able to earn from it is almost a bonus in itself.

This is a company that is not going to be disappearing into the blue. It is well worth getting involved with even if just for the video email.


Tagvillage has had a rollercoaster start. Two false starts with the tag trading before it was launched properly with a few thousand people involved from the start. It looked set to take off in the same way Kooday did. The problem was many in Kooday thought tagvillage was just a spinoff and wouldn’t last. In fact it was quite the opposite with Kooday ultimately failing. It was Koodays failure a few months after Tagvillage began that probably was the biggest hindrance to Tagvillage growth. People were scared Tagvillage would have the same fate. They failed to see that the business model was totally different and the only thing similar was that you could buy and sell tags.

The big difference was the commission structure. Tagvillage had commissions setup in a way that it only pays from profits. Due to that the company will never be in financial trouble. A lot of thought had gone into how commissions are generated. Early on some people thought that Tagvillage were not paying as much as they should, comparing it to Kooday. When Kooday imploded due to their business model not being able to sustain itself, some realized that it was because of this Tagvilage commissions were better.

Tagvillage came under critism for not releasing the platforms promised in the timeline that was originally set. The reality was that Tagvillage is doing something that very few other startups do. They are building everything from scratch. They are not purchasing ready made scripts or existing platforms, they are building their own. Wowwe is the only other company that can possibly say the same. This may not seem important but for a long term company it is very important. They have kept members well updated with what the company is doing and explained reasons for events.

One of the key things Tagvillage did at the start was setup a Leadership Group. Originally there were about a dozen people made up of members, shareholders, David Ruebush (CEO), and even a developer. As the company has grown so has the Leadership Group as members have been identified with growing groups and helping others, select members have been invited into the group by CEO David Ruebush. Currently there are 29  people in the group. The importance of having this leadership group is that it gives a voice of the members to decisions made by the company. It also provides some good ideas to come through that may have otherwise not been thought of.

The Bazaar was the next release that Tagvillage came up with trying to capitalize on the growth in the penny auction niche. It did not provide the influx of membership that was expected despite creating the fairest penny auction system on the planet.

In October Tagvillage worked to regain it’s early momentum by launching the Tag Guru Contest. In fact from that point on there has been a constant stream of promotions and contests. Thousands of dollars have been given away to members in the process. The Bazaar was closed to reopen at a future date as they believe it was not in line with the company ethics.

The Tag Guru Contest has been a success with hundreds of members qualifying for the levels which will reward them in credits from the New Year on. This rewards some members with thousands of dollars.

The tide has turned with Tagvillage and you could say Tagvillage has grown up and thrown away the training wheels. The last two months has seen a lot of activity. Wanting to speed up development Tagvillage setup a investment plan where people could get a high return on their money with the option of converting it to a Tagvillage share at the end of the term. Those that got in on the deal would be very happy now.

In November Tagvillage setup a gofundme page in an attempt to source some much needed development funding. This was a temporary measure as they were already in negotiations with an equity company for a deal reportably worth 8 million dollars. Due to this the investment plan was closed to new investors.

The focus has now changed to developing the Tagvertising Platform to give members the most commission potential on their tags. What wasn’t known was that it will also create another income stream of commissions from advertisers or publishers that use what will be the Tagvillage advertising widget. Similar to having adsense on a website, Tagvillage ads will be shown in a similar way on not only the Tagvillage website but other sites as well.

Then a big announcement

tagvillage Attracts Large Advertising Network

Dec. 9, 2011

UPDATE: we are happy to announce that tagvillage has signed a deal with a major advertising network this week. When our Tagvertising distribution system launches, it will include ad content from one of the largest online ad networks. Advertisements from over 60,000 advertisers will be fed to us directly by this network. This means publishers will have access to the highest quality advertising content to monetize their sites. It also means tens of thousands of advertisers will immediately be targeting the Tags our members own from the very beginning of our Tagvertising Distribution System launch! As we are able to, we will release more details regarding this new partnership and the many other amazing things happening with our Tagvertising Platform.

Shortly after it was announced that people can signup to be part of the beta testing until the end of January 2012. You can read more about the publisher and advertiser beta testing at these links



The part that will distinguish the Tagvillage advertising network will be the ability to earn a commission from every referral that you have that uses one. That will create residual income. Another big selling point to get people to signup to the beta testing is that advertisers wil get a full month of free advertising. That alone will be worth thousands of dollars to those that take advantage of it.

Although Tagvillage has not accomplished everything they set out to in 2011, they have put together an opportunity that is now set to take off in 2012. This is a company you should be involved with. There will be a lot of growth over the next year and you do not want to miss out.

That Free Thing

With over 500,000 members TFT has been a big success, or have they? Of those 500,000 members only around 40,000 paid for membership. That is still a lot of members. If they are all current members, that would represent $400,000 a month in subscription fees. Of course a lot of that is paid out in commissions.

The latest move by TFT have been to launch their Daily Deals. With 500,000 people on the books they can go to companies with a bit of deal puling power. Probably the biggest challenge will be in some places where companies have had bad experiences with coupon based deal companies. Here in Australia there have been several articles in newspapers about companies and individuals that have had bad dealings.

ThatFreeThing has managed to maintain a good Alexa ranking since its launch and despite falling off it’s peak levels it has not had the sudden drop experienced by the fly by night companies.

The website has improved considerably from the early versions and is now looking very professional. It was money well spent to get it much more attractive and more functional for members. Separate country and even cities can be selected to filter offers. Other features such as the ability to share the offer via Facebook and Twitter may not be that exciting but help with promotion. It also has a much better description of what the offer is worth. The main critism in it’s early development was the lack of offers outside of the USA. While the USA still has the bulk of the offers it also has the bulk of membership on the site so you could say it is all in proportion.

The introduction of a fast start bonus was met with mixed reactions. Some thought it was good as it added commissions for getting people started. Others saw it as a problem with the higher startup cost possibly preventing some people from joining.

There is also some nice features like a Freebie bank showing you the value of all the freebies you have ever taken on the site. I have previously praised the fact that TFT have pretty much come through with everything they have promised. Possibly the only exception to that would be people that complain about not getting spillover into their business. That is small thinking though because no one should ever rely on spillover to build a business.

Zeek Rewards

Zeek Rewards was one of the standout successes in 2011. A simple program that perpetuates it’s own advertising by making the income opportunity linked to members advertising. Basically in order to earn your daily share of the profits you must place an ad for the program. This means that the company grows generating more profits which can be shared with members. Clever idea isn’t it. The key is that the program is sustainable as it has more outside income coming from the penny auctions. As such this is a program that does not rely on member contributions like JSS.

The program has grown very well and there are many members that are now generating a very good income. For only a few minutes work each day this is definately worth joining. There are different levels of membership and you can start as a free member and work your way up. This reduces risk which you may have noticed I like to do.

So where do I see Zeek Rewards in 2012? the penny auction niche does not show any signs of disappearing so Zeek will continue to grow its auction site. THis is good news as it means the business side will continue to have funds coming in. For the business side I believe there will be good growth in 2012. Many people will start earning an income that begins to make a difference in their life. For some that may only be a few hundred dollars a week, for others it will be thousands.

If you haven’t joined yet this is a program you should get involved with.

The Failures

Promises are only as good as the intention behind it. Kooday started the year with a lot of hope and was still very popular despite missing deadlines. Questions were being raised by some people including myself but the fact was if they were to deliver on what had been promised a lot of money was there for the taking.

There was only one voice behind the company and some people questioned his real involvement. Indeed the support that was introduced was all volunteers that were directed by Mark. Some have since said that the support they were given was the worst in their experience and Mark did not give them any information.

The signs of failure really surfaced in April when for the first time payments were not met. Some were and some weren’t which seemed a bit strange. Support were told to take details of those that did not get their withdrawal requests. It was the beginning of the end though and things got worse rather than better. The key problem was activity had dropped significantly which meant that the money going into the site was substantially less than before. Weekly commissions had already been dropping to very low levels and people were looking elsewhere. It was the classic Ponzi fail. Money coming in was being overshadowed by withdrawal requests. Soon the money dries up.

There was a few sporadic payments which in retrospect seem to have been made to promote hope that Kooday were fixing their issues. This did not slow the demise much and June was the last time any news was released. Even then it was saying that there was going to be a big announcement. The announcement never came and was probably a last ditch effort to get people to put money in.

There is serious doubt over whether Kooday ever set out to develop a search engine. It seems more likely that it was a scam from the start. Lack of any evidence to suggest otherwise tends to support the view.

The website remained online even after the initial domain expiry date which surprised many. It is possible that was just in the hope that some unsuspecting punter would put money in. Given the amount of promotion it is fair to assume there are links around still online. Maybe it was left online as a way to collect more email addresses from people registering.

I will add more later. Just wanted to get this post out to you all.

Tagvillage Christmas Presents Tagvertising Commissions

Tagvertising Commissions

Tagvillage are set to launch the most important aspect of the business so far, Tagvertising commissions. This means all the people that have worked hard to build up a big tag inventory will start to see which ones are going to start paying off. Tagvertising commissions are paid to members who own the tag that is targeted by advertisers. They will get 20% of the payments made on a ppc model. This means that every time someone clicks on a ad, the tags that have been targeted earn from it. All the members that own those tags will get a return. It may not be a lot but as Tagvillage grows so will the commissions.

There is an announcement due to be made in the next couple of days and it is expected that the details of tagvertising commissions starting may be included in it. Many members see this as the real justification of Tagvillage as it is something that was not achieved by previous programs.

Moving Forward

There have been some big things happening at Tagvillage. A big financial announcement is also on the way and the pace of growth is set to reach new heights.  2011 was steady but a lot slower than Tagvillage expected and development suffered as a result. This will be a distant memory as the announcement to be made involves a very big change that will see development rapidly increase.

The one thing you have to admit is that Tagvillage have managed to quietly go along and improve constantly. This is still early stages yet they are profitable and paying members daily. There have been some changes top original plans and they have all led us to where we are now. Tagvillage have so far managed to give over $25,000 to charities which is a great feat. It is still way short of what they want to be giving, in fact they would like to see that become a weekly or even daily amount when they are big.


There is so much going on at the site with contests, promotions etc it is hard to keep up. We move into the final month of the $500K Tag Guru contest and still there is the opportunity for anyone to earn from it. Another contest Star Light Star Bright contest recently ended and winners will be announced on 05Dec11.  Currently there is a promotion on this weekend for anyone that deposits goes into a draw where they could win 100 credits. Other recent promnotions have included double credits, Tag hunts and more. It seems there is always something going on.

Tagvillage contest


To speed up development and add an arm to Tagvillage they used GoFundMe to raise funds for faster development of the tagvertising platform. Some wondered why they would need this extra money when they are giving away so much money in contests and promotions. I can answer that in telling you that it is two separate pools of money. One is Operating  and the other is Research and Development. Those that donate are invited into a special club with some cool benefits. It is rather beneficial to donate and Tagvillage have made it more than worthwhile for those that believe in the purpose.


Tagvillage Change the World


Tagvillage has a strong emphasis on charity so much so they have even branched off to make another cause type website So far Tagvillage has been able to give over $25,600 to different causes and this is just the beginning. There are three causes it is focusing on helping extra in December.

Just by being an active member of tagvillage, you will change lives this December. We are focusing our efforts on 3 cause projects from now until the end of the year. Together we can make a huge impact on these three projects, just by trading Tags!

Tagvillage Charity

Project One: Farm Animals for Families

World Vision

1 Goat: $75 | 2 Chickens: $25 | 1 Cow: $500 | 13 Farm Animals: $500 | 28 Farm animals: $2000
World Vision


Project Two: Smiles for Life


1 Smile for LIFE: $250



Project Three: Stop Girl Trafficking in Nepal

American Himalayan Foundation

Save one little girl’s life for 1 year: $100

Girl Trafficking AHF


There really is a lot to look forward to here. If you like helping people, like helping charities, like making money online, then you should be joining Tagvillage.

To find out more click here

Whats Hot?

I was going to write up a post but before I do I wanted to canvas your opinion for what programs you think are really hot and working right now. Comment below and I will probably include them in my next post.

Are you having fun yet?

Sometimes people forget that they need to enjoy what they are doing. It has been awhile since I made an update and although I have had a few false starts making posts and I’ll be honest this one is not going to be greatly detailed either. But I had to put something here so you know I am still around.


So the last couple of weeks I have been concentrating on the Tagvillage Contest. It has really taken off and a few things behind the scenes have been really interesting.

So back to the contest which is still less than a third of the way through. I was one of the first people to make it to Master Level. That in itself means I have qualified for a share in each of the first three $100,000 prize pools. In fact the first person to make it to master level did it in only 2 days.

Of course making it that quickly is exceptional and takes a fair bit of work to do. But to get to the first level is much easier. Now that I am at master level I also get benefit from helping others achieve qualifications. The methods are there to be able to do it within a few days. So I am looking for people to do exactly that. I will help you with the methods and even help with managing your account if neccessary.

My Goal is to do what the Tagvillage site currently states is a way to possibly achieve the Tag Guru status. Here is what it says;

As of Sunday, October 23, 2011

There are less than 50 Journeymen and Masters COMBINED in all of tagvillage!

Based on the current number of active members in the Tag Guru Contest,
ANYONE could walk away with OVER $150,000 CASH just by doing these three things:

1. Trade your way to Tag Master (easily done by trading 0.10 Tags)
2. Get 25 referrals between now and December 31, 2011
3. Help each of these referrals make it to Tag Journeyman (easily done by trading Tags with your referrals)

Anyone that helps 25 people make it to Journeyman has a AMAZING CHANCE to be the TAG GURU and win
OVER $150,000 CASH by December 31st! Now THAT would be a nice Christmas bonus!!!

So that is my goal. I want to help 25 people to get to Journeyman. For the right people I will help with $25 credits. I will not do it for everyone so you have to prove you are worth it. If you are interested register free and then talk to me. I’ll let you know what needs to be done.

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